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"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction) 11/28/2018 at 10:15 • Filed to: None

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This is pretty cool. But it looks super-weird from this angle (below).

Probably a wide angle lens distorting it some, but still.

E90M3 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 10:20

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This is pretty cool.

Solel y for the face there isn’t a mall insight. I think I might hate modified jeeps that see 0 offroading more than the Versa. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > E90M3 11/28/2018 at 10:23

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mall crawler = hard parking

Yup, n o different than an M3 with upgraded suspension, brakes, aero, etc. that will never see the track.

OPPOsaurus WRX > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 10:25

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I bet Wranglers place 1st in model bloat with the only real challenger being the mini.

E90M3 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 10:26

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Really need to get mine on a track at some point, but I need to a few things to it that are gonna cost me some decent money and I’m not making what I used to. 

Spanfeller is a twat > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 10:27

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I think it’s going to prove to be a poser-mobile.

Give me a two door Sport with a manual and a brown top tho...

Nothing > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 10:27

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Those were my exact words...

I like it, ordering for them opens in January/February. This could be the compromise “fun” and “practical” vehicle I’ve been looking for.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > E90M3 11/28/2018 at 10:29

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Yes, you do! The only things you need are better brake pads and brake fluid. Trust me.

Or do you have some big regular maintenance items that are due?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Nothing 11/28/2018 at 10:30

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Glad you held off on getting a Wrangler, I assume? 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Spanfeller is a twat 11/28/2018 at 10:31

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I mean, 95% of Jeeps are poser-mobiles. As are 95% of Corvettes. As are 95% of M3s. As are 95% of...

way2blu does a rev update > OPPOsaurus WRX 11/28/2018 at 10:35

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Jeep pickups in general.

This ‘87 MJ Comanche weighs about the same as my Toyota MR2. ~2800-2900 lbs.

Would not be surprised if the Gladiator is 4500+.

Nothing > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 10:40

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Potentially. Around the time I was looking, my wife’s company (her team, actually) had some layoffs. She’s fine and not in danger, but always a bit of an uneasy feeling when that happens, so I had to let the dust settle on that.

I’m still browsing, but may lower my price point a bit on a JLU if I go that route. However, a yellow manual Rubicon just popped into stock locally...

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 10:41

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I think it’s a cool “lifestyle truck”. They are going to sell like crazy with ridiculous markups and MSRP would be considered a discount. Expect to see them everywhere in Colorado and Utah, exactly like this including the dude

Spanfeller is a twat > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 10:44

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I know, but more so.

E90M3 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 10:51

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Brakes are coming up soon, and I would want to get the rod bearings taken care of. I think I might do those soon for peace of mind. 

DipodomysDeserti > way2blu does a rev update 11/28/2018 at 10:53

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The Comanche was based off the unibody Cherokee and isn’t related to the Wrangler at all. Here’s a custom four door Gladiator. Still pretty big.

Dru > E90M3 11/28/2018 at 10:59

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ouch.  What will the rod bearing job run you?

E90M3 > Dru 11/28/2018 at 11:00

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I think right around 2k. Still debating on whether or not to do them now, my car as right under 47k on it. 

jimz > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 11:01

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longer than I thought it would be,. 

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 11:02

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Full press release and summary:

Summary of Specs/Features:

V6 Pentastar with Engine Stop-Start: 285 horsepower, 260 lb-ft torque (6-speed manual or 8-speed auto)

Diesel coming for 2020 model year (8-speed auto only)

Only convertible pickup truck on the market (removable hardtop, soft top or both)

Modified grille for better airflow

Unique frame, bigger axles, brakes, wheels and suspension

Longer rear link arms set lower for better control and towing ability

Truck bedsides are shorter and lower than fullsize truck, for easier loading/unloading

Tailgate with halfway-down option

Over 80 safety and convenience featuresOff Road + button changes parameters of BTC (brake traction control) for sand running and low-range rockcrawlingLate-availability of rear locker access in high-range 4WD is being consideredOff-Road PagesForward-facing camera

4 trims: Sport, Sport S, Overland, Rubicon

Sport / Sport S: 245/75R17 Bridgestone Dueler HT 685 or A/T RH-S tires

Overland: 255/70R18 Bridgestone Dueler HT 685 or A/T RH-S tires

Rubicon:Fox aluminum-bodied 2-inch diameter shocksFull-length side bars and additional bar for bed areaOptional steel bumpers33-inch mud-terrain Falken M/T tires - LT285/70R17 with C load rating

7,650-pound towing capacity, Optional Class 4 receiver and 4- and 7- pin harness plugs

1,600-pound payload

Dimensions: 204” frame (31” longer than JLU), 137” wheelbase (19.4” longer than JLU), 5-foot bed

Approach angle: 43.6 degrees

Breakover angle: 20.3 degrees

Departure angle: 26 degrees

Ground Clearance: 11.1”

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/official-press-release-2019-jeep-gladiator-specs-photos.8455/

Dru > E90M3 11/28/2018 at 11:04

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Hm.  Not as bad as I might have thought.  Perhaps an Oil Analysis could tell you if you should get serious about it?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > jimz 11/28/2018 at 11:05

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No way around that.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > E90M3 11/28/2018 at 11:06

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120k on mine! =)

Either lucky or stupid...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 11/28/2018 at 11:07

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Oh yeah, it’s a money-printing machine. Hard to believe it took them this long.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Nothing 11/28/2018 at 11:08

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Glad her job is safe - never fun to go through.

HammerheadFistpunch > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 11:10

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Im all for the JT, and I know I will see these EVERYWHERE in Utah.  but it is one awkward looking hecktor. 

E90M3 > Dru 11/28/2018 at 11:10

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I had one done and it came back super clean. 

E90M3 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 11:11

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Maybe a bit of both! Stupid lucky! 

HammerheadFistpunch > Nothing 11/28/2018 at 11:12

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I think these are a good choice to consider for the midsize truck buyer...but man alive they are going to be overpriced and STAY overpriced.  People complain about Tacoma’s...Jeep says hold my beer.

HammerheadFistpunch > way2blu does a rev update 11/28/2018 at 11:14

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more, the JLU is already 4440 lbs.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 11:23

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Haha - true fact.

Will be interesting to see what the aftermarket offers. Thinking camper shells that work with or without the removable rear panel.

HammerheadFistpunch > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 11:30

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that...is an excellent point. This is going to make for some very cool camper shells. There are already some like from Ursa Minor and others

This will take it to a new level.  That being said, I wonder how it will work with bed flex.

nermal > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 11/28/2018 at 11:33

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According to my math it’s 7" shorter in WB than a Ram 1500 crew cab / short bed, and 8" narrower (assuming same width as a JL).

That changes to 12" shorter and only 5" narrower than a 2500.

From a value perspective, you’d be better off getting a low-options Power Wagon and taking a chainsaw with you in case you get stuck between trees.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > nermal 11/28/2018 at 11:37

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I bought a Tacoma this year. I could’ve bought a Silverado for a few grand more, but I really didn’t want a full-size truck... 

Nothing > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 11:39

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Oh, definitely. A TRD Pro Tacoma can be had for what... low-mid $40s, and that’s top of the heap, maxed out price Tacoma. I think Jeep will buck the trend of the SUV version of a pickup being the more expensive model . I doubt you’l l get in a Ruby JT for under $50k to start with. I wonder if the 1% under invoice Tread Lightly discount will apply to these.

WiscoProud > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 12:25

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I think the price will spike initially, then come back down. Due to the popularity of Jeep I don’t think you’ll see discounts like you do on full-size trucks though. 

HammerheadFistpunch > WiscoProud 11/28/2018 at 12:26

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That certainly hasn’t been the trend for the wrangler.  its only gone up in price since the JK debuted.  

WiscoProud > HammerheadFistpunch 11/28/2018 at 12:28

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I meant come back down to MSRP. I think they dealers will put a premium on it to start, but eventually it will be back to “normal”. 

HammerheadFistpunch > WiscoProud 11/28/2018 at 12:30

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ah, thats probably true. I wasn’t even thinking of markup, I just meant MSRP is outrageous .